Thursday, July 05, 2012
Response to Friendly Criticism of Understanding Jesus: Five Ways to Spiritual Enlightenment (Paternoster, 2011)
Having read and made
extensive notes upon Understanding Jesus: Five Ways to Spiritual Enlightenment (Paternoster, 2011) an Oxford educated now retired Christian minister who is a friend of the family
wrote to me with a number of questions and observations to be addressed by way of friendly criticism. I
obtained permission to share his notes and my responses (in blue)...
The purpose of the
following notes should not be misunderstood. While the general thrust of the
book and presentation of its arguments are impressive, along the way there are
issues which - unless I have occasionally misunderstood the reason for their
inclusion – are to my mind insecure and therefore either detract from the
argument, or give ammunition to those who wish to resist it, or probably both.
p 4. Misleading. Individuals named at lines 7-8 from
different periods, not all of them early enough to assist the argument. Jury
out over Nestorius: was he significantly heretical or not?
In my defence, I was quoting
from a reputable scholar on the issue. If some of the names mentioned are too
late to be of relevance at least some of the names are early enough to be of
relevance. It seems clear that the earliest heretics were Gnostic or
proto-Gnostic, and that they would have downplayed the physical humanity of
Christ. Certainly the problem Ignatius faced around the turn of the 1st
century was people denying the humanity of Christ rather than denying his
deity, so I think the basic point stands.
p 7. Wording is odd: how can you believe you know? (Unless
there is a subtle epistemological point here)
The subtle epistemological point
is this: you can believe that you
know something without actually
knowing something (i.e. you can be sincerely wrong). My point here, contra the new atheism, is that the
belief in Jesus exhibited by Ignatius and other second generation Christians
was not an example of ‘blind faith’, but an example of people believing things they thought they knew to be true on the basis
of adequate evidence. I am not, at this point, claiming that their beliefs were true or did constitute knowledge. Rather, I'm pointing out that, right or
wrong, they thought they knew about
Jesus (on the basis of eyewitness testimony), a claim with which one can agree
even if one thinks their belief was wrong. However, this observation is
incompatible with the neo-atheist misdefinition of ‘faith’ as necessarily
blind.
p 12. Tertullian and Origen rather late to support the case
The sources listed on page 75
were written up to 145, 162 or 315 years after the events they report, and yet
would feature in ancient history. Weak evidence is better than no evidence.
That said, I did mention several other names on page 12 in the course of making
my point, e.g. Clement and Polycarp.
p 26 and elsewhere. I find these diagrams and tables
irritating but perhaps this is just me. I find it is an attempt to put an
argument into boxes rather like a civil servant trying to explain something to
me, as a rather thick citizen, on the government website.
I like the diagrams and tables
and many books use them. I well remember the effect this type of bar chart had
on me when I first saw them – much more powerful than a mere verbal report of
the facts.
p 28. I can recall the time, was in 50 years ago, when
philosophers thought that their sole task was to consider in some detail what
words mean, while they rejected metaphysics as somehow improper.
Quite so.
p.98. 'Jesus personally encouraged his disciples to adopt
such an attitude towards him' = reverencing him as divine. I'm not really sure
about this. Typically the Synoptic Jesus is reticent about his identity. A
neglected factor in the argument here is the early preaching of the gospel as
recorded in Acts. The thrust of Peter's sermon at Pentecost is that the
identity of Jesus emerges as a consequence of events, rather than as the
motivator of them. If the argument around page 98 is sound, we might well
expect a different presentation of the relevant matters in the early preaching.
See also the sermon at the Beautiful Gate and Paul's first sermon.
I would say that it was events in the context of the claims that were jointly sufficient for the disciples
understanding of Jesus. I’m not making claims about what the disciples
understood at any particular stage of Jesus’ ministry, but about what Jesus was
claiming over the course of his ministry.
It seems to me that the
disciples were increasingly certain that Jesus was the Messiah (e.g. because
they saw more and more healings, exorcisms, nature miracles) but,
simultaneously, increasingly confused by Jesus’ understanding of what it was to
be the Messiah (which was, on the whole, an inversion of contemporary
expectations). The crucifixion all-but shattered their faith in Jesus, but the
resurrection vindicated and transformed it (cf. Thomas: ‘My Lord and my God’,
etc.)
Peter’s Pentecost sermon
certainly begins with miraculous events – after all, Pentecost is taking place
(!); but why does Peter think these events legitimate his designating Jesus as
‘the Lord’, ‘your Holy One’, ‘the Christ’, ‘Exalted [to the father’s right
hand]’, saying he has ascended to God, saying he is ‘both Lord and Christ’? In
particular, what about inviting people to repent and be baptised ‘in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins’ and to receive the Holy Spirit of God through
such faith? Surely, because the resurrection and other miracles vindicate the
personal claims that Jesus had made about himself through his teaching.
My focus in mounting the
trilemma argument is the evidence concerning what Jesus verbally claimed for
himself both implicitly and explicitly. As I show, the bottom line is that there
is early and pervasive evidence, both indirect and direct evidence, that Jesus did verbally lay claim to divinity in
both implicit and explicit ways.
pp 108-9. The argument from prophecy demands greater
exposition and I note will get it, later in the book. There is a genuine
exegetical problem regarding the key Old Testament passages concerned, namely,
that the interpretation of these in the New Testament is typically selective
rather than incorporative. The claim that Jesus relied on the Suffering Servant
picture of Dt-Isaiah to designate himself and his purpose, is highly
controversial for this reason
As you say, I come on to this
subject later. I hope that my later discussion of typology may have mitigated
some of these concerns.
p.116. Comparisons and contrasts between John and the
Synoptic Gospels is a minefield. John's account of Peter's presence at part of
the trial is compelling, whereas Matthew and Luke do not agree as to the point
when Peter left the judicial proceedings. It might be perilous to make too much
of Peter's presence as a witness to the key declaration of Jesus, therefore
On page 116 I don’t compare
and/or contrast John and the Synoptics. Nor do I think I make ‘too much’ of
Peter’s presence as a witness to the trial. Peter clearly did have quite a lot on his plate at the time! Nevertheless, he was there in person and a possible source of eyewitness
testimony about the trial. Rather, in response to the question of who could
have known what went on at Jesus’ trial, I simply point out that: 1) Luke says
in his gospel introduction that he did historical research, and that there
might have been documents of the trial he could have accessed, 2) Luke mentions
Joanna the wife of Herod’s steward, who is another possible source, 3) that
several members of the council were possible sources of info on the trial and
that 4) John (a probable eyewitness) reports Peter and John both being at the
trial. There is no lack of possible, plausible witnesses to Jesus’ trial.
p.145. In passing, I was surprised to find no reference in
this discussion to Cardinal Newman's rejection of Hume's fallacious point of
view
I can’t read everyone. Besides,
I simply don’t have room to mention everyone I read. If I had quoted Newman,
you might well be surprised that I had not quoted (as I did) John Earman’s noted recent
treatment of Hume!
pp.147-8. I found myself asking, in reference to the
quotation from Isaiah 40, whether the first hearers of the phrase 'a highway
for our God' would imagine this to be a prophecy of God due to come in person,
or rather a prophecy of God's presence evident in the action of selected and
godly human beings (the same caveat has to be issued with regard to Craig's comment
at the end of the quotation from the latter on pages 155-6). In any case, the
syllogism on page 148 opens a can of worms. I am a long way from being up in
the latest literature, but my recollection of these matters is that the Jews of
Jesus' day did not suppose that Messiah was necessarily a divine figure, but a
special and chosen messenger and figurehead from God. There has been a long
argument about this and to assume one conclusion from several possible others
is risky without supporting reasoning.
According to Dr. Norman L
Geisler: ‘The Old Testament foreshadowings of the Messiah also pointed to his
deity. Hence, when Jesus claimed to fulfil the Old Testament messianic
predictions he thereby also claimed the deity attributed to the Messiah in those
passages.’ - Christian Apologetics
(Baker, 1979), p. 332.
I could have made use of Messianic prophecies from
Isaiah 9:6-7, Psalm 45 and Psalm 110:1.
I could also have been more explicit
about Malachi 3’s talking about the messenger (identified by Jesus as John the
baptist) preparing ‘the way before me [God]. Then suddenly the Lord you are
seeking will come to his temple…’ – adding how Jesus came to the temple, called
it his Father’s house and made various other very significant claims about
himself in the temple (e.g. ‘before Abraham was, I am’ – John 8:58). cf. http://carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/isaiah-403-mal-31-matt-33-prepare-way-lord
Then again, I could have talked
about the overlap between Jesus’ self-designation as Messiah and his use of
‘the Son of Man’ designation, e.g. Daniel 7:13 ff (but I go into this
elsewhere): Jesus claims to be the Messiah and
he claims to be the Son of Man, hence Jesus claims that the Messiah and the Son
of Man are one and the same person (i.e. himself), hence whenever Jesus claims
to be the Messiah he is also implicitly
claiming to be the Son of Man, with all that this entails.
p.159. 'To lay claim to... story wasn't made up'. I have
puzzled about this and I still don't quite understand the logic of what is
being claimed.
To make up a historical claim
and get people to believe (or at least not to question it), one would be well
advised to make up an event that wasn’t a) public, b) highly unusual and
memorable in nature, c) subject to multiple eye-witnesses and hearsay witnesses
in d) a specific, findable, geographic location. That this story breaks these
common-sense rules is thus one indication that it wasn’t made-up.
p.164. David Winter is a nice chap but not a pundit. It
doesn't help the status of the argument to quote someone who is a faithful
priest and effective broadcaster but at best a secondary source in terms of the
apologetic matter offered by the book. The same can be said mutatis mutandis of
Michael Green (evangelist and priest), Lee Strobel (journalist) and even the
much loved former Spurgeon's principal Raymond Brown, (Baptist minister with a
doctorate in Church history - unless you mean the other Raymond Brown, an
American RC biblical scholar).
I’m not sure exactly what this
note refers to, as p. 164 is simply a book list that doesn’t contain anything
by Brown, Green or Winter. However, on the general topic of quoting ‘non-scholars’,
I think this is appropriate in a book such as this aimed at a non-specialist
audience. I did of course do a lot of research and when I quoted from
non-scholars I felt that what they said was an accurate summary of the facts of
the matter. For example, while I quote David Winter at the start of chapter 5
on page 165, what he says is, I believe, true. I quoted scholars Graham
Stanton and Graham Twelftree making much the same basic point as Winter on page
157.
Dr. Michael Green was educated at Clifton College and Exeter
College, Oxford (Bachelor of Arts
1953, Master of Arts 1956) and subsequently at Queens' College, Cambridge
(Bachelor of Arts 1957, Master of Arts
1961, Bachelor of Divinity 1966) while preparing for ordained ministry at Ridley Hall. He has been
admitted to the degree of Doctor of Divinity by the Archbishop of Canterbury
(1996) and the University of
Toronto (1992). Green works with the Oxford Centre for Christian
Apologetics (a joint project of RZIM international and Wycliff Hall, Oxford)
and has co-published on apologetics with Dr Alister McGrath.
Lee Strobel is a well-regarded
popular apologist who is generally summarising the thought of other, eminently
credentialed scholars whom he has personally interviewed on the record for
books that report their conversations. Even so, I am aware of certain criticism
of Lee’s work and don’t rely on him where I know his claims are questionable.
In sum, while these non-academic
voices might not be suitable sources for an academic thesis, they are good
communicators of their material, which I only quote when I believe it to be
accurate.
As for quoting Raymond Brown on
page 153, from An Introduction to New
Testament Christology (London: Geoffrey Chapman, 1994), this is indeed the
noted American Roman Catholic scholar!
p.184. 'If we can refute all other theories... we will have
proved the truth of the resurrection...' and p.195 'the failure of arguments...
means that resurrection is the only adequate explanation'. This is the Sherlock
Holmes approach to the dilemma, that is, that if all probable explanations for
an event are disproved, the impossible must be the explanation. Of course I am
committed to the objective truth of the Easter story, but there is a logical
gap here which will not escape a professional philosopher: the alternative to
accepting the impossible is that there is an adequate explanation that no one
has yet encountered, and from the point of view of a certain kind of
rationality, the resulting suspension of judgement is preferable. This is the
reason, apart from brute rejection and unbelief, why a comprehensive defence of
the Resurrection narrative such as the book provides does not result in mass
conversion! Candidly, I think the existence of this chance for a suspension of
judgement is what God intends in the general nature of things, but that is another
matter.
As you point out, the crucial
thing about an argument by elimination is whether or not the argument rests
upon a false disjunction. However, this issue is mentioned p. 184 by Kreeft and
Tacelli, who note that the argument doesn’t need to be watertight if it works
with ‘live options’, so that one isn’t concerned that maybe Jesus was actually
a Martian, etc. Believing Jesus to be a Martin, or whatever, looks far less
plausible than the ‘live options’ of deceit or delusion on the part of the disciples,
for example. If the resurrection is a better explanation that the best ‘live’ alternatives
options one can imagine, then this is a good reason to accept the resurrection.
Moreover, argument by elimination is not the only argument form given in the
chapter, since p. 195-196 discusses the ‘argument to the best explanation’ form
of the case given by William Lane Craig and N.T. Wright.
The recommended
resources take a wide variety of methodological approaches to the resurrection.
p.188. Jewish expectations of the identity, behaviour and
destiny of Messiah are a minefield of study and scholarship. This arises later
in the book (chapter 6) and I merely note now the apparent conflict between
Craig's first point (the absence of Jewish expectation of a convicted and
executed Messiah) and Geisler's claim, reported on p.218, that Jewish rabbis in
Old Testament times considered Isaiah 53 to be a description of Messiah.
I suppose that Geisler and/or
Craig might be taken as speaking in general terms without ruining either
point; but it is also worth remembering that people aren’t necessarily
consistent in their beliefs!
On the one hand, Norman L. Geisler is far from my only
source for believing that the traditional interpretation of Isaiah 53 was
Messianic, and certainly not the modern ‘nation of Israel’ interpretation. Dr
Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum (systematic theology, New York University) agrees that:
‘the
historical Jewish interpretation of Isaiah 53 is that it speaks of the Messiah,
not of the nation. In fact, the first rabbi ever to claim that Isaiah 53 speaks
of the nation and not of an individual was Rashi, about the year A.D. 1100. I
might add that he was opposed in this interpretation by the majority of the
rabbis of his day; and the rabbis continued to oppose his interpretation for
centuries after him. Historically, it was not until the 1800s that the
“national interpretation” of Isaiah 53 became the dominant rabbinical view.’ –
‘The Messianic Prophecies Fulfilled in Jesus’, The Big Argument: Does God
Exist? (ed. John Ashton & Michael Westacott; Master, 2006), p. 339.
Jewish Christian scholar Dr
Michael L. Brown states:
‘Early
Jewish interpretations about Isaiah 53 are varied… But nowhere in the
classical, foundational, authoritative Jewish writings do we find the
interpretation of this passage refers to the nation of Israel. References to
the servant as a people actually end with Isaiah 48:20. Many traditional Jewish
interpreters, from the Targum to today, had no problem seeing this passage as
referring to the Messiah… They didn’t have any difficulty interpreting it
independently of the preceding context of the return from Babylonian exhile.’
(in Lee Strobel, The Case for the Real
Jesus, Zondervan, 2007, p. 213.)
Craig A. Evans points out that: ‘both
the Great Isaiah Scroll of Qumran and the Masoretic Text appear to view Isaiah
52:7-12 and the well-known Song of the Suffering Servant, 52:13-53:12, as two
related units, perhaps with 52:7-12 introducing the song. Interestingly enough,
this is how several modern commentators understand the sense of Isaiah 52-53,
even though no reference is made to the Great Isaiah Scroll. Even the later Aramaic
translation and paraphrase called the Targum links Isaiah 52:7 with the Song
of the Suffering Servant. We see this in a change of wording in 53:1. The Hebrew’s,
‘Who has believed our report?’ becomes in the Targum, ‘Who has believed
this our good tidings?’ This means that the good tidings (or gospel) announced
by the prophet in 52:7 have to do with the Lord’s Suffering Servant in 53:1.
Indeed, the Targum goes on to identify the Servant as none other than the Messiah.’
– Jesus and His World: The archaeological evidence (London:
SPCK, 2012),
p. 79.
On the other hand, as I note
elsewhere, under the pressure of the Roman occupation the Jew’s of Jesus’ day
had apparently forefronted the glorious, victorious, kingly aspects of
messianic prophecy at the expense of the suffering servant aspect. The
disciple’s behaviour in the gospels certainly bears out the belief that they
wanted Jesus to ‘kick Roman butt’ (e.g. Peter carrying a sword to the garden).
Jesus upended these expectations by placing the suffering servant
in the here and now and the conquering king at the second coming (some later
Jewish thought apparently made the less economical move of splitting these two
paradoxical functions between two different Messiah’s – cf. http://jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/15_5/returningking).
cf. Dr. Michael L. Brown’s work
on this topic in e.g. The Gospel
According to Isaiah 53 (ed. Darrell Bock & Mitch Glasler; Kregel) www.kregel.com/Media/MediaManager/Chapter2.pdf
and in Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus (Baker, 2003).
Lee Strobel and Mark Mittleberg discuss fulfilled prophecy:
p.199. The closing quotation from Craig is theologically
vital: it is the identity of the raised one which really matters. This factor
represents one reason why no one bends might and main to defend the historicity
of the raising of the son of the widow of Nain, for example. I would have
thought there was a case in any revision of the book to make more of the
identity of the one raised as an additional reason for accepting the truth of
the Easter story.
I agree with you that it is a
good point well worth flagging up. I thought I'd made the point sufficiently
clear by making it the very conclusion of the chapter.
pp.213-4. Here the chapter begins to get into deep waters.
The translation of Genesis 49:10 is insecure. The interpretation of Daniel
9:24-26 is disputable: even the very conservative New Bible Commentary isn't
sure about it! Old Testament scholarship deserves better treatment than it
receives in these all-too-brief discussions.
I admit to being dependent upon
my referenced source, among others (e.g. Jewish Christian scholar Dr Michael L.
Brown), for this interpretation of Genesis 49:10. However, Rabbi Zlotowitz remarks: ‘The
general consensus [with a few exceptions] of rabbinic interpretation is that this
phrase refers to the coming of the Messiah. This passage accordingly constitutes
the primary Torah source for the belief that the Messiah will come. The
overwhelming consensus of Rabbinic Commentary interprets this verse to allude
to the Messiah.’ Again: ‘Rashi
says that the verse refers to the Messiah. Targum Onkelos renders the verse as
referring to the Messiah. Nachmanides agrees, as does Rabbi Ashtruc in the
commentary Midrashei Torah, and Gur Aryeh, and Rabbi Sforno, and Midrash
Tanchuma, the Jerusalem Targum, Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, Yalkut, the Talmud, and
Midrash Rabbah.’ (cf. http://hadavar.org/drupal/book/export/html/110).
As for Daniel 9, I was well aware
of the controversies surrounding this passage and noted in the book that ‘The
interpretation of this passage is much discussed’ before providing what seems
to me to be ‘one plausible reading’ thereof on the basis of my research. Again,
I am reliant upon my referenced sources. In addition, cf. www.thechristianrabbi.org/messianicappearance.htm
I would note that neither
passage forms a central part of my case. I don’t calculate any odds off these
passages for the prophetic odds calculation I give in this chapter, and should
these interpretations be wrong my overall argument would thus not be greatly
affected.
p.215 (and admittedly I begin to declare my concern with the
argument from prophecy). I would not include many of these texts as genuinely
messianic and so I regard this accumulation of references as, frankly,
mistaken. The problem is not my own personal taste commitments, but that in a
book of declared converting purpose such disputable material may detract from
that purpose in the minds of those for whom it is intended.
pp216-9. These pages need an essay, not a notice. In
summary, the points to consider would be (1) it is plain enough that in
deutero-Isaiah, the servant of the Lord is indeed the people of Israel (for
example 44:2). Distinct passages in this document are generally understood to
be 'servant songs' relating to Israel collectively. Why should Isaiah 52:13 ff,
the fourth song, be any different? It is different in that it is not
quite clear who the speaker or speakers are and whether he/they change in the
course of a longish passage: but this does not mitigate against the claim that
the servant is Israel. It is possible to argue that Jesus is going to define
himself as the personification of Israel collectively, but this contention
would take us into the realm of Jesus' self-understanding in his use of this
and other Old Testament categories, together with the theory that Jesus engaged
in an original reworking and combining of them: but this claim is not quite
what the argument of the book says. (2) we are given a sympathetic (to the
argument) English version of the fourth servant song: other translations
produce verses or part-verses which cannot possibly be true of the individual
Jesus, but then of course we are into highly technical argument concerning the
exact meanings of Hebrew words and pointings (3) it is worth asking what
possible purpose the prophet, speaking for God, would have had in speaking to
the people in Babylon (assuming the theory of the multiple authorship of
Isaiah) of a coming, individual sin-bearer, or what possible meaning the people
would have given this. In other words, over- enthusiastic interpretation fails
to consider the sitz in leben concerned (4) I am not at all sure that
Geisler is correct in saying that the rabbis considered the fourth servant song
to be indeed a prophecy of Messiah: all my teaching, admittedly long ago, was
otherwise, to the effect that Jesus' use of this passage to describe himself
and his ministry was original to him, but I am not in touch with the latest
research (5) in any case it is vigorously argued by some New Testament scholars
that Jesus did not use the suffering servant picture of himself (although Peter
certainly does in his first letter and Philip may have done in his encounter
with the Ethiopian eunuch). All this means there is a great deal of argument
here and my concern is that a single-minded statement of one point of view,
devoid of the acknowledgement that there are others, detracts from the sense of
fairness which is important to the effect of the book on educated and
potentially convertible minds and hearts: on the reasonable assumption that
this is the kind of reader from whom the book is intended.
See my previous comments about
Isaiah 53.
Pp 219-22. You can guess that I'm not any more satisfied
with the appeal to the text of Psalm 22. A good deal of, to my mind, spurious
thinking has been erected on the premise that in quoting the first verse of
this psalm, while in extremis, Jesus had in mind this or that further verse(s)
within it and its/their historical/theological implications. What, in such
appalling agony of body? Surely this is unnatural special pleading. In any
case, the later parts of the psalm are triumphant, restorative, peaceful and
not true of the crucified and dying Christ.
I
can only say that it doesn’t strike me – or many other commentators - as
implausible that the suffering Jesus would be quoting scripture on the cross
(he is certainly reported as saying various things from the cross by multiple
witnesses). Dr. Michael L. Brown affirms that Jesus ‘applied Psalm 22 to
himself on the cross.’ (The Case for the
Real Jesus, p. 199.) Psalm 22 is an obviously relevant Psalm for him to
quote. Jesus’ crucifixion is a moment
of triumph as well as of suffering; the triumph of his submission to the will
of the Father despite his fear of the cross exhibited in the garden, the
inauguration of the new covenant discussed at the last supper, etc. Jesus’
final cry of ‘it is finished’ comports with the ending of Psalm 22: ‘It is
done’. Dr Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum notes that ‘the rabbis in the Yalkut (another Aramaic paraphrase) also
understood the passage to refer to Maschiach ben Yosef.’ – op cit, p. 353. Professor John
H. Reumann concludes that: ‘Jesus’ death
is veiled in language of the Twenty-Second Psalm. A case can be made that he
himself thought and expressed himself in its words, in typical Klagelied
piety.’ – ‘Psalm 22 at the Cross’, http://int.sagepub.com/content/28/1/39.full.pdf
Pp 223-8. I'm grateful for this section and amused that it
manages to touch on the each of the historically important theories as to the
meaning of the atonement bar one, that is, the classical or Victor theory. The
rejection of the penal substitutionary theory, historically important in modern
evangelical history, will bring some stern rebuke on Peter's head and the
suggestion in very strict quarters that the book should be read only in closed
rooms and must be handed from person to person only in brown wrappers. The
rejection, however, is in line with what I think is the best modern evangelical
thinking, although as I indicate it is controversial.
While I don’t reject the
biblical language or image of substitution, you are quite right in picking up
on the fact that I reject at least certain widespread understandings of
‘substitutionary atonement’. I appreciate your comments here about my being in
line with the best modern evangelical thinking on the matter.
p.229. I think we have a tangle here and in the immediately
following pages. I can't see it is in any way unavoidable that Paul really did
believe the parousia ('second coming') would take place just round the corner
and in his lifetime. The reasons why he should conclude that this was the case,
and even that he did, are disputed of course, as is almost everything in
biblical eschatology. I think the book attempts to soften this feature of New
Testament textual difficulty or even explain it away. Strict biblical
conservatives cannot accept it because they then have to accept that Paul's
perspective changes as he gets to the Pastoral letters, and the idea that the
perspective of inspired Scripture should change is unacceptable: but their
dilemma is only avoided by getting two or three separate pairs of knickers in a
twist simultaneously. It's a very uncomfortable experience.
Note. Perhaps I've read the wrong books or was raised
theologically speaking at the wrong time: but I find this chapter the least satisfactory
of all so far. I thoroughly agree with the brief summary on page 234 of those
elements in Old Testament prophetic writings which Jesus, so to speak, took to
himself and acted out as illustrations of his purpose and mission: but as the
book points out, this is not quite the normal understanding of the 'argument
from prophecy'. Among other things I'm grateful for, however, is the
illuminating excursus on foreknowledge and free will: I have always accepted
the commonsense of the point of view expounded, without being able to express
it so lucidly. 'True wit is nature to advantage dressed,/What oft was thought
but ne’er so well expressed' (Alexander Pope)
I don’t deny that maybe Paul and
certainly many other early Christians thought
that Jesus would come back in their lifetimes – but I do deny that the New Testament
teaches that Jesus would indeed
return during the lifetime of Paul and the other early Christians.
Paul clearly believed that he
was living in the end times, that Jesus might come back any day and that
Christian life should be lived in the expectation of the second coming and also that the time of Jesus’ return
was unknown, that there was no problem with Jesus returning after people who
had become Christians had themselves died, etc.
Paul’s familiarity with Jesus’
teaching about his return – which teaching clearly rejects a specific schedule
for the second coming - is reviewed by David Wenham, Did St Paul Get Jesus Right? TheGospel According to Paul (Lion, 2010), p. 72-76.
I’m glad the rather
philosophical point about foreknowledge and freedom was clearly communicated
and well taken.
p.243ff. I could not decide whether Peter (author, not
apostle) thinks that religious experience is a separate strand of proof which
can stand alone, so to speak; or whether he is arguing that, given the
testimony accrued in previous chapters, religious experience on the part of
believers is a concomitant line of evidence only. Perhaps I have read it all
too quickly.
I am making a cumulative case
which requires that one think each element of the case have some weight to add to the overall case,
but wherein the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. A cumulative case is not like a chain of links that is only as strong as its weakest link, but like a steel rope made up of multiple intertwined strands. As far as my
argument goes, religious experience may or may not stand sufficient alone –
this is something I am happy to leave the reader to decide from their
perspective.
p.246ff. The expression 'words of knowledge' arises from
traditional translations and exegesis of 1 Corinthians 12:8. Quite apart from
the evidence adduced in these pages, the fact is that this traditional exegesis
is hotly disputed and may be misconceived. The assumption among people of
charismatic inclination that it refers principally to the kind of unexpected,
expressed insights Peter describes is disputed, say, in the vast commentary on
1 Corinthians by Anthony Thistleton (pages 938-944).
The point at issue here is of
course the actual occurrence of ‘words of knowledge’ in the ‘charismatic’ sense
(the one’s I reference arose in Church of England congregation). I think it
would be a mistake to decide the meaning of 1 Cor 12:8 absent the evidence
adduced for the kinds of insights mentioned in this chapter, for if such event
do occur then the plausibility of taking this verse to mean that such events
occur is thereby increased. The verse and the events are mutually reinforcing.
Still it’s the events that I need for my argument, not the specific
interpretation of the verse in question.
p.256ff. I was in some measure amused by the listing of
miracles of healing known to sundry esteemed personalities, in the light of the
fact that one of Pete's allies is Dr Peter May who has spent much of his time
debunking claims of miraculous healing (and I once found myself interviewing
him and reporting on his debunkings) by Morris Cerullo, among others. While I
was a newspaper editor, I also attended healing events conducted by two
well-known evangelical figures and concluded without hesitation that the
individuals concerned were hucksters, though I could not possibly say so in
print for fear of having a writ land on my editorial desk: so I described what
I had witnessed at the events concerned and let my readers make up their own
minds. I conclude that a reference to the difference between the genuine and
the spurious would have been appropriate at this point in the argument. From a
different point of view, there is a difficulty with laying too much stress on
miracles of healing, namely, that most sick people don't experience them. The
pastoral consequences of helping someone through their complaint that 'God
doesn't love me as much as he loved that person' or that 'God isn't fair, he
just heals some people and lets others go on suffering and there's no reason
why he should do this' - are very real: not to say the pastoral consequences of
trying to explain to people, if explanation is available, why God appears to be
willing to answer some fervent prayers and to turn his back on others. These
issues are so hard to deal with from the pastoral point of view that most
pastors pray with the sick but don't pray for them, that is, not
for their recovery, so as not to add to their burdens. The retelling of a
handful of healing stories therefore creates apologetic difficulties of an
unintended kind: the brief reference to the problem at the foot of page 272
does not solve them.
Dr May has done the church
sterling service in routing out false miracle claims, and he is keen to emphasise
the qualitative difference between the healing carried out by Jesus in the New
Testament and the majority of healing today; but he does agree with me that the
existence of counterfeits doesn’t exclude the existence of the genuine article.
Wanting to focus upon the
evidence for what I know to be a contentious claim, I was left with little
space to address the obvious corollary question of fairness. As a pastor you
may be particularly sensitive to the pastoral issues here. I think my remarks
on pages 272-273 offer a sufficient, if brief, apologetic response: 1) healing
is a supererogatory gift and not a right, and 2) whatever question about God’s
ways of working in the world may be raised by thinking that a miracle has
happened - whether in the Bible (where Jesus clearly did not heal everyone in
the world at the time) or today - that question can’t be used to abrogate the
evidence that raised it, or inferences from this evidence, without sawing through
the branch upon which it rests. However, perhaps I should have said more on the
pastoral subject. For example, I could have noted that evidence for miracles of
healing, exorcism and words of knowledge are of course evidence of good things being done for people, and
that good things are more likely to be done by a good person than a bad person;
whilst more general religious experience clearly involves an experience of the
goodness and/or holiness of God. I could also have reminded readers that
several other parts of the book deal with the question of Jesus’ moral
character and his suffering on our behalf, and that this context helps to deal
with the issue here.
In short, when writing the book
I wanted to acknowledge rather than ignore the obvious issue, but to do so in a
way that flagged up both why I wasn’t able to take more time to deal with it
and which pointed to resources for dealing with it. Hence I raised it at the
close of the chapter, just before the recommended resources, which contained many
resources dealing with the problem of evil.
p.277. The definition of the kingdom as 'what life would be
like if... human lives' is surprising, despite its source. Most New Testament
scholars known to me would be far more emphatic as to its meaning, and indeed
placed the emphasis elsewhere. Further, the paragraph moves from the
essentially Synoptic phraseology of 'Kingdom of God' to the Johannine
phraseology of shepherds, sheep and gates without explanation or mention that
kingdom concepts virtually vanish in John.
I am of course here merely
jogging the reader memory as to the earlier discussion of the kingdom of God,
cf. pages 106 ff. At this point I’m basically doing systematic theology, not a
study of the differences between Synoptic and Johannine expressions of the
gospel.
p.281. The exposition of the 'birth from above' metaphor
strikes me as mistaken. It is explained as 'God's gift of himself to human
beings' but birth is something that happens to you and which you cannot resist:
nor can the woman giving birth arrest the process, though that may be to press
the metaphor too far. It is the essence of any gift, however, that it
can be resisted or returned.
The exposition here is Professor Dallas
Willard’s. I would think it is pushing the metaphor of the ‘new birth’ too far
to use it to say that one has no choice about being born again. To be reborn is
to enter into a second form of life, enabled by the indwelling Spirit of God –
but this new life is a gift that can clearly be refused. cf. John 3:3-21.
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